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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Do we have any boat thumpers?... Reply with quote

Here on Lake Murray we have a lot of guys that will carry a wooden implement handle (like from a broom, hoe, rake) and put a rubber tip on the end of it . The use this tool to beat rhythmically on the bottom of the boat when downlining over fish. Some of you may know or have heard of Lee Thomas in our club. He's won Angler of the Year here several times and is a downlining specialist. He's definitely a boat beater...lol After fishing with Lee and his partner, and doing the same on my own, I'm convinced the technique has merit. Baitfish, when they are feeding, create a "clicking" sound that attracts predators. I guess you know now why your mama told you not to "Smack" when you chew your food..lol Anyway, I'm sure others here may try it as well, if not, have faith and thump away this summer to increase your bites...As Lee says "you gotta believe"... If I'm fishing shallow, I prefer a stealth approach, but if I'm downlining fish at 30+ feet, I'm a thumper...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fished with aguy who swore up and down by it. It would drive me crazy!Spoon feeding over timber trying to get them to look up. Iam not totally convinced. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: I have heard similiar stories. Reply with quote

There is a well respected guide on Lanier that will use his hands to slap the side of his boat to "wake-up" the fish when down lining. I have also heard of some fisherman that temporarily start their big engine while down lining for the same purpose, even though they are not planning on moving anywhere.

I had luck with this approach one time last winter when I kept going over a group of fish that I could see on the graph, but they appeared to be sleeping. They would not even move to take a look at my bait much less eat. After several passes with the same result, I tried slapping the side of my boat several times when I passed over them. On that pass I got a hook-up. It worked that one time, but I could not repeat it on several following passes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was fishing with Bill C. one time and he told me of this technique. He said they would try using different instruments to see what works best...I thought it to be pretty cool.

I've tried stomping the boat and yelling, but nothing as of yet. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Something that could relate. Reply with quote

I was in a narrow part in the Etowah river one day and everytime a boat would come by I would have 1 to 2 poles get smacked. I guess the fish know the shad or any kind of bait fish gets stirred up and they would feed until the water settles down. Craziest thing I ever seen.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, you gotta have rhythm. Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Something that could relate. Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
I was in a narrow part in the Etowah river one day and everytime a boat would come by I would have 1 to 2 poles get smacked. I guess the fish know the shad or any kind of bait fish gets stirred up and they would feed until the water settles down. Craziest thing I ever seen.

The boat runs the shad off of the shoals and starts a feeding frenzy. I saw that get some big ones stirred up on the cf river one time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thumping DOES work. It works well when you graph fish in trees. Sometimes you can "call them" out of the trees and come up to eat. Typically, if I mark a school of fish (other than in the trees) that won't bite, I'll thump a while, then fire up the outboard. If that don't work, I'll drop a 2 oz bucktail tipped with a herring and power reel it - usually if the school is still around, they've bit something. If you can keep one on for a couple extra minutes, it seems to really fire up the others and causes a chain reaction bite.

Good Luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i sat on fish for for an hour today, thumping on everything in the boat,slapping the side,starting the motor,singing,tapping my flip flop,,,,after i gave up and just sat quiet for 15 min ,we hooked up ....

i think the thumping is lake specific ?? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the thumping is school specific. It seems like every school of fish is just a little different - some spook off and some make you bang and clang everything on the boat to get them to bite. Seems like somedays it works better than others.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: thumpin' Reply with quote

I do it sometimes, but never have actually been in a situation where I could say it was the factor that made them bite. I have triggered some feeding with a jigging spoon before and I've also noticed that if you do get one on and let him run around down there in the school, it will get the rest of them fired up. The thumping thing will work on crappie too. I've seen that before whn tightlining over brush. The guy I was with started beating hthe paddle on the side of the boat and said it would make them look up, and it did. We hooked up 3 or 4 fish within seconds of him doing that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Worked on Clark Hill yesterday... Reply with quote

and the Capt that my daughter and I were fishing with had built this "drum pad" over a 3-4 inch long section of pvc pipe that was about 6 " in diameter to convey the sound through the bottom of the boat. The tapping sound on the "drum pad" had a higher pitch than what i've heard when generally tapping on the bottom of the boat. I'm not exacly sure what "clicking" baitfish sound like, but this higher pitch had to be closer. Anyway, the three of us filled up a large cooler with 5-8 lb fish in about an hour and a half ... The biggest fish was 10 lb 2ozs. We were downling fish that were on the bottom at 60 ft.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Old tricks Reply with quote

I used to watch a gang of four old men who fished out of a big Lund on a lake every morning -- it sounded like they had a construction crew going -- each one had a wooden mallet that they banged rythmically on the boat as they used jigging spoons to slay White Bass/ Hybrids -- they fished the same spot every morning and filled their boat in summer -- nothing special about the spot except it was near a timber line --

The cannonball method used to work best for me on summer Striped bass that were inactive and deep -- we would sit on big schools waiting for them to turn on -- if we couldn't get em going after about twenty minutes -- one of us would jump in cannonball style makin the biggest splash we could -- and danged if every rod wouldn't go down before we could get back in -- so NOISE does work, I had jet skis turn inactive fish on,

On rivers passing boats in shallow water bust up big schools of shad and make em run as they scatter -- in turn this makes the Striper light up

Offshore in saltwater when we fish rigs , we blast around rig legs as close in as as we can making a few circles at high speed and then shut down -- this draws up some VERY large fish to investigate the commotion

On Texoma a common practice to to froth the water with your trolling motor OR whip the water with a big stick or another rod -- I know this works because I can see the results on a graph -- usually done in conjunction with chum

These methods work best in Summer when lakes are heavily trafficked

So yep in certain circumstances some noises do attract fish which will investigate the racket.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK I fished with some guys on Lake Murray where most of this type thing goes on I saw it first hand in the guys boat I was in. After a hay day of catching stripers I asked him what exactly was the theory on this. His theory is that when the fisheries were raising the fingerlings that everyday when they would feed the fish the workers would bang the side of the pen with the food bowl or whatever they were carrying food in. Hence causing the fish to associate they banging/ slapping noise with food (Pavlows Dog)
that is what his theory was : bangin noise = food Just my two cents worth I have no idea if any of that is true but thought it was interesting
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it works
i have seen it work on J a few times that fish i was
marking would not bite, till i started beating Smile
on my boat
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: I've also seen it done Reply with quote

Went out with Steve Crenshaw on Lake Hartwell. He would use the end of a poolstick with the rubber tip. We seem to hook-up often enough doing this to definately try it sometime. I just don't think it would be my weapon of first choice.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is pretty interesting sounds like thumping to me, still never tried it but bilge has set them off for us before.

Audio of Sounds made = http://www.fishbase.org/physiology/FishSoundsSummary.php?autoctr=40

Sounds Made by Morone saxatilis
Sound produced = yes, active sound production
Type of sound produced = low "unk", thumps, clicks, scrapes & escape sounds
Sound production organ = swim bladder, teeth
Sound mechanism = no associated swim bladder musculature, probably vibration by general body contraction
Behavioural context = startle or duress (handling or electric stimulation)
Remark = sound always coincident with suddenly increased activity
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Very Cool! Reply with quote

Thanks for the info!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a spare $500 or $600 laying around, I saw a magic little gadget at Cabela's the other week that has a submersible speaker and a control box where you select from a variety of "fish sounds" - mostly those of bait fish, etc..... I think it was also in the catalog somewhere in the section with the fish finders.

I think I like the pool cue idea better Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mwardncsu wrote:


I think I like the pool cue idea better Cool


Don't you come up on Smith Mountain and start beating on the boat. We look down on those people up here. Shocked Actually, I honestly think/know it works, but still think people look pretty stupid beating on their boat with a pool cue. Ask HokieChad about his cannonball trick! Works everytime. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the cannonball only works on SML if you are in spandex, right? Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Cannonballing Reply with quote

Is cannonballing anything like teabagging? Sounds like it might be painful to try to attract striper that way... Laughing

See definition #2: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabag

And while I was at it.... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arabian+goggles

I know one thing for sure, I don't want one of these boats! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glass+bottom+boat
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: WHOOPS! Reply with quote

It's in there, my bad...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cannonballing

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn dude! Surprised I was just talking about jumping in the lake to get the fish biting! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: anti-stealth approach Reply with quote

Sorry, I'm a newbie to the board so I'm just going over old post but this one really caught my eye.
The other day while fishing I was realized all my electronics had been going 5 straight hours so I though I would start the boat and rev it up to give the battery a boost. I did and let it run a few minutes until the alternator quit indicating "charge".
Within a minute my first planer went flying, then a downline, etc. I went to the finder while I fought the 1st fish to plug in the waypoint and noticed the screen was covered!
I had been marking stragglers all day but saw no schooling fish until I fired up the main. Coincidence? Probaly, but after reading this thread it does make me wonder.
Shawn, you are one sick puppy!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chums kin folk .. gotta be !
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